Do you think that materialism and symbolism are slowly but surely creeping into the Christian religion?
Topic: Do you think that materialism and symbolism are slowly but surely creeping into the Christian religion?
July 18, 2019 / By Aillard Question:
If you look at today's famous pastors you would agree that they are far more richer than those in the 50s.I am not saying that it's wrong for the pastors to be rich but do you think it's all they are preaching about these days.I guarantee you today if you tune in to Chtistian TV channels you would hear pastors preaching about wealth,money and prosperity.If you walk into any church you would think it's a fashion show by the way they are dressed.Money is becoming more important in the Christian religion.As for symbolism you would swear that baptism is more important than God,the sign of the cross is more important than He who died on the cross,Holy Communion is more important than the one we are doing this in order to remember,how a person is dressed is more important than his faith.certain laws and church doctrines are more important than our faith in Jesus.Have we become exactly what Jesus was against?Hypocrites and worshippers of the law,who preach one thing but never do it themselves.To God alone be the glory.
Best Answers: Do you think that materialism and symbolism are slowly but surely creeping into the Christian religion?
Suzan | 9 days ago
I understand where you're coming from, but if you read
2 Timothy 3: 1-7, it explains why things are this way now.
"But know this, that in the last days critical times hard to deal with will be here. 2 For men will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, self-assuming, haughty, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, disloyal, 3 having no natural affection, not open to any agreement, slanderers, without self-control, fierce, without love of goodness, 4 betrayers, headstrong, puffed up [with pride], lovers of pleasures rather than lovers of God, 5 having a form of godly devotion but proving false to its power; and from these turn away. 6 For from these arise those men who slyly work their way into households and lead as their captives weak women loaded down with sins, led by various desires, 7 always learning and yet never able to come to an accurate knowledge of truth."
As is it states in paragraph 2, Men will become lovers of themselves, lovers of money... You see that everyday and even more so within the church. Think about it, why should you be obligated to pay a tied in church and put it in an envelope with your name on it so that they'll know how much you personally gave the church. Why is it a set percentage of what you make? That's utterly ridiculous. What you give to the church should be on a contribution basis only and no one should need to know how much "You" put it. You put in what you had... even if it's 10cents. Should you go hungry or loose your home because you feel obligated to pay your tieds?
Paragraph 2 also talks about being disobedient to parents... Children today are Out of Control and they show a blatant disrespect to they're parents and others and it's becoming increasingly worse as time goes on.
Look at what paragraph 3 states... having no natural affection and without love of goodness. If that doesn't speak mountains to you, then read it again. How else can you explain the senseless deaths taking place and the vicious way in which they are being done. Especially when a person can look at a baby and instead of seeing a precious, helpless child, they somehow see a reason to rape a baby or to kill one. People seem to hate what's good nowadays... they totally dismiss what's right and find reasons to do what's wrong and then they fall on the excuse that "we're all sinful, so god expects us to make mistakes and be sinful instead of "Trying to "Practice" righteousness.
And 5... Is the answer to your curiousity... "having a form of godly devotion, but proving false to it's powers... does that not explain the pastors, preachers and all of the above. They call themselves representing and being a spokes person to teach Gods word when infact the only god they're speaking for is the god of this system of things... Satan the Devil.
Why does a preacher need a big luxury sedan but the members of the church are poor and struggling? Why is he the only one benefiting from monatary gains? The glory is supposed to God, not man. Money for the church to go to the church (all of it), it should not be for personal gain in anyway, but yet we see differently.
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Originally Answered: I'm happy we are reaching the critical mass.slowly but surely. What do u think?
G It's definitely a race with deteriorating environmental conditions that, combined with excessive population growth, could destroy the complex structures that support the accretion of wisdom. That is why I keep urging people to accelerate the accretion of wisdom by using the SCBTM.
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The human brain only presents a minute split of what is going on to the consciousness. There is simply too much going information streaming in from the senses. In addition, the vastness of the universe and our ignorance of it preclude knowing everything. It is also not necessary to know everything.
To function much better than usual, we only need to
Focus Intention –Nam-in order to understand the basic relevant realities like the inseparability of
Tangible and Intangible-Myoho
Causes produce Effects,-Renge
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Yes, I think so. Remember that religion can fade away in a few ways. 1. Fewer heads 2. Less religious activity/fervor. Many people will say that so and so many people are still believers, or they have some vague belief in a deity. But this is still better than when almost everyone was a diehard Christian. The only places were religion is not in decline is the places in the third world were people get many kids. Provided those countries are stabilized, I think we will see the same trend there.
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Amazingly enough, the most effective preachers are those who do not preach about money. People like Billy Graham (who receives a set salary - like church pastors). I do worry that you cannot differentiate between a pastor, a preacher, and a televangelist. It is interesting that you also seem to not know the difference between the pronoun "you" and the pronoun "I". And, I know that you didn't include me in the "we" used in the second half. But, I will heartily agree with your last sentence. "To God alone be the glory."
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Talk about hypocrites and judging! Notice your first few sentences speak of pastors being rich YET you don't want to judge by stating that would be wrong? tsk tsk tsk, Shame on YOU.
Let God decide if their hearts are right. Of course, everyone's making more money these days. Even much of the poverty level people who are receiving Aid and subsistance from the Government are receiving more foods and money.
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I think it's been this way since Day One. Jesus warned against it, and Paul. Love of money is the root of all evil. We can't worship both God and Wealth. We love the form of religion more than the spirit of it. It's a constant struggle to not be conformed to this world. <*)))><
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I think these things are creeping into the hearts of some but I wouldn't say the Christian religion itself is accepting these things. It seems to be a sad reality that many believers just don't get it.
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Only since the introduced the crucifix and tithing.
Not meaning to sound unkind, but the slow creep of symbolism and materialism in the Church is not a new phenomenon.
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Slowly? It's been that way since commercialism rooted.
My mother said her adoptive aunt dragged her to church every day of the week so she could look at the other women's clothing, make fun of it, or use it in her seamstress business.
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Originally Answered: Did anyone notice alot of christian symbolism in Harry potter 7?
I believe that author J. K. Rowling deliberately avoids specific mentions of religion in her books. There is a prevailing theme of good versus evil, but there is no link, implicit or explicit, between these concepts and God or devil.
When Christian symbols occur, they are always in popular, rather than religious terms. Christmas celebrations at Hogwarts and at the Weasley's have been an occasion for gift-giving, but there has been no reference to the reason for the holiday. Nor, incidentally, do Hallowe'en celebrations mention the devil.
There may be a casual mention of a church building somewhere, but the Church as an institution is never recognized. Neither Dumbledore's funeral nor the wedding in Book 7 take place in churches. The black-clad individual who presides at both doesn't interest Harry, and we hear little of what he says. He is certainly not preaching Christianity (or against Christianity).
Because of the Old Testament condemnation of "witches," under which tens of thousands, at least, of individuals were persecuted and executed, there has been a reaction of ultraconservative church members against the Potter books. In my exchanges of opinions (discussions would not be the right word) with such folks, I have tried to emphasize that the witches and wizards in Rowling's books did not seek or obtain their ability to do magic through any sort of pact with the devil. They were born with the ability and no more to blame for it than a hippopotamus is to blame for being a hippopotamus. I think a person who objects to fantasy on religious grounds, one who is offended by the Oz books, for example, is entitled to be offended by Harry Potter, not otherwise. They tell me that the books are objectionable because they glorify witchcraft and encourage young people to try to emulate Harry and his friends through unholy means, usually unspecified. I am skeptical.
Such fundamentalists won't read the books, much less be mollified by incidental Christian references.