Bachelors of Arts in Music or a Bachelors in Music?
Topic: Bachelors of Arts in Music or a Bachelors in Music?
June 16, 2019 / By Alea Question:
My daughter has been singing (with lessons) for 14 years She is 23. She has been focusing on classical singing (opera) with instructor since age 13 (her choice), spent 2 years at a community college with courses in opera, then transferred to a State Univ working towards a Bachelors in Music. After two years, (one year and a semester left under BM) she wants now wants to change major to a Bachelor of Arts in Music. She says she might not want to just do opera, she doesn't want to teach, maybe theater or a recording artist with some questionable reasons in my view. My questions are ...what does this mean career-wise with the switch to this other degree? If she wants to do opera later will this change how she is looked at by perspective opera companies in the US and abroad? Can she do a masters in music if she gets the BA?
No I am the mom. I saw the post from the boy earlier and it didnt answer my questions. You seem a bit angry in your response and I dont understand that because this place is for helping people. But I do understand your skepticism. I kept my question with only the pertinent details to keep it at a decent length. But if you must know...
As a mom I am worried when she tells me this, this late in the game. The reasons she was in school so long because she wasn't focused and has dyslexia so she has had trouble with the academic courses. However, she has held a 3.5 since being at the university.We also arent millionaires and she works part time to help put herself through college.
(I feel) She hasnt told me the true reasons, I suspect because she is finding the theory and piano hard and wants to get by on talent only. I joined today because I wanted to educate myself on the degrees before I meet with the coach and her this weekend. I want to be ready to fight for her original plan and
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Tristen | 10 days ago
It is VERY unlikely that your daughter will be able to make a career as an opera singer. Actually, we could say that about virtually anyone. The odds are simply stacked against any young person wating an operatic career, because there are not that many jobs available, and there are very many people who would love to have them. That's the first thing to be aware of.
The second thing to understand is that the competition consists of young people who have excellent and well-trained voices, and who have been through a top opera programme, for example studying at the Juliard, or one of the four or five conservatories in the US which might be roughly equivalent, or in Paris, Vienna, or nowadays Beijing of Seoul. This is a global profession.
The third thing, and by the sounds of it the most critical in your daughter's case, is that the few who do make it generally have THREE things going for them. A good natural voice, an excellent education, and single-minded determination. If that last is missing, now is a good time to give up. If it isn't there, she won't make it. And although you can provide encouragement, you can't give determination.
There is one other thing which might possibly be relevant. You don't say what your daughter's Fach is, as far as I remember from the question. There is more competition in some areas than others. If she is a lyric soprano, then those are six a penny throughout the world, so that would be bad news. On the other real contraltos or dramatic sopranos are rather rarer. Quite a lot rarer, in fact. Check what she is, and bear this in mind. But barring a really unusual Fach, it sounds to me to be time for Plan B. Sorry.
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Originally Answered: Is a bachelors of science considered higher (or harder) than a bachelors of arts?
There is a difference, for sure, especially at schools that give you the option of getting either a B.S. or B.A. in the same major as mine did (though many schools pre-determine whether a degree will be a B.S. or a B.A. depending on whether the major field is Math/Science or Humanities/Letters arenas, taking the choice out of your hands).
The difference usually involves the number and complexity of math and/or science credits required to graduate, and the percentage of your final credit total these fields will take up. For example, when I chose to get a B.S. over a B.A. it meant that I had to have 9 additional hours of math and science (one upper-division/junior-senior level) than the standard requirement.
All of that said, it typically makess NO DIFFERENCE in terms of prestige unless, and even then this is a relatively small concern, you are planning on going into a math or science field, or a highly competitive grad school or fellowship application process where the candidate field is so tighly packed that even the smallest things make a difference--and that is a rare situation.
The issue of prestige is instead a personal one...I studied journalism and govnernment and, my entire life, had been known as someone who was absolutely useless when it came to math or science. When I accidentally took an extra science class than my degree plan required, I realized that I would only need two more to get a B.S. instead of a B.A. For me, a guy who really struggled in math, particularly, and was seen as a completely touchy-feely "writer" type by even my closest friends and family, the idea of actually having a piece of paper that said I'd earned something specifically tied to math and science was appealing to me...me personally, and I chose to go for the B.S. and was thrilled when I first saw it on paper.
I'm an exception, I'm sure...but the point is the same. Do what is right for you, for your major, for finishing your degree on-time, and for what you feel will give you the best education in this last round of liberal arts education...you'll be happiest that way.
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My daughter has been singing (with lessons) for 14 years She is 23. She has been focusing on classical singing (opera) with instructor since age 13 (her choice), spent 2 years at a community college with courses in opera, then transferred to a State Univ working towards a Bachelors in Music. After...
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Many music performance people don't think they will ever want to be a school music teacher. However, the realities of the professional performance world make for a very competative environment for the few available jobs for the many highly talented individuals who audition for those jobs (sometimes as many as a hundred applicants for each position). As a school music teacher for many years, I always advise students to get the teaching certificate in order to be able to earn a living if the performance goal doesn't work out. The musical aspect of both degrees is the same with the only difference being the requirement to take the needed courses in education and the need to do a teaching internship in the final semester. A masters degree will be the minimum to getting a teaching job at the college level; preferably a DMA - doctor of musical arts. But for elementary and secondary teaching, a BM with a teaching certificate is all you need. If she's good enough to perform as a professional musical theater or opera singer, she doesn't need any degree at all. Nobody who hires people for such jobs cares less if you have a diploma, only if you're the most talented.
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Although definitions vary from one state accreditation to another, to simplify: a BA in Music has 1/4 music classes, and 3/4 academics. This degrees is worthless for a serious musician, and is for dilettantes only. A FEW states will allow you to be certified to teach school with a BA - most do not, and require a BS (half music, half academics) or a BM (3/4 music, 1/4 academics - and this degree allows you to answer the NCLB questionnaire as "highly qualified".) She will NOT get the training she needs to pursue higher goals in music - and will NOT be allowed to pursue a MM in music - she just plain will not have enough music classes.
Why is she 23 and in college NOW? What has she been doing with her life? This sounds suspiciously like another question i read here - but written by the student herself - unless you ARE that student, and posing as the mother now? Too coincidental in such a short time frame . .
Stick it out and finish the BM. There is no rational reason to lower your standards now - unless it has something you are NOT TELLING us, about why you are 23 and still in college, and not to graduate until you are 25 . . .
Added - hmmm- you just joined TODAY? This makes me more suspicious . . .
Added 2 - Thank you for the clarification - and you can see why I was suspicious - we get so many people here that are duplicitous, and have many accounts, to get around things. NOW you tell us that 1. she is dyslexic and 2. she works. Knowing she had these issues, WHY would she choose a long an d very arduous career path, knowing that she would find it harder than most *normal* academic majors? I completely comprehend that she could find performing to be something that was personally calming and self-dignifying - but a career in opera? Highly highly impractical - and for a BA - not even close to achievement. The very strongest candidates go into this prepared for sequential rejection, and know that the work-load I never-ending. Thinking with your heart sounds like wonderful concept - and then reality hits you. She should explore every avenue that will allow her to finish the degree she started - back-pedaling into a BA is not the solution here. I wish her luck - and hope she finishes. We did not even address WHERE she is studying - becasue if it is not a TOP opera school - then the future look even bleaker. My SIL was an opera singer for year in NYC - and maintained another career as a *safety*. Our nephew started out in college as an opera major - and changed to music business, once he saw how insane the life was - and he was at a TOP school,too. This is a cruel discipline - I hope you daughter find a path for herself, but with her considerations, this may not be it.
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Originally Answered: I did bachelors in fine arts 20 years ago and got married,become housewife.now i want to work but what?
Some of the same unfair rules apply, but I know a LOT of people who use local gallery shows to get their portfolios and CVs (curricula vitae) built up. Get a portfolio together. First place to start, gallery, right? Wrong. Does your library show artists? Do any libraries in your area show artists? Generally they are very open to the wild things the people in the community do (I've seen skateboards on our local library's walls), as opposed to galleries which expect this to be your profession (they need product). Coffee shops can also be good. These are all great places to network and make contacts and see if you can get yourself a local job doing what you want to. Clear?
Get some work together and get some exhibition space. Don't hold out for something too hoity toity because it might be available on terms which are too expensive for your ambitions. If you want to design you obviously don't necessarily want to sign with a gallery.