Different Direct Deposit Amounts for Active Duty Solider?
Topic: Different Direct Deposit Amounts for Active Duty Solider?
June 16, 2019 / By Audra Question:
On the 15th of the month I received my husband's 1st direct deposit. I got the 2nd today and it was about $650 less than the 1st. I was under the impression that all deposits were the same. Also, I called the Department of Defense about getting statements and because I'm not the soldier I can not get access to the online details. My husband is still in Basic Training so I can't just give him a call. I have bills to pay and adjust, how can I plan appropriately if I don't know the amounts to be deposited every two weeks?
I'm not naive and I know the website, please only respond to this question if you have VALUABLE information for me. Thank you.
Um...just to mention, my question/concern isn't negative...It's simply a question...also, in regards to me finding work: I'm a full time student (actually more) and a mother of two, I am contributing to the future of my family. I don't put extra stress on my husband. I am one of the most supporting spouses and I am fully aware of what he's going through. Also, I am asking this question on Yahoo Answers to avoid bringing it up to him. So thanks for your concern.
Best Answers: Different Direct Deposit Amounts for Active Duty Solider?
Abbey | 7 days ago
The only way you are going to get a look at his pay (LES) is if you can access his "My Pay." But I think I have an answer for your dilemma. On the 15th he received what was supposed to be "half" of his entire months entitlements. Now, if they took the entire months pay and split it equally the amounts would be about the same for both pay periods give or take a buck or two. But, what probably happened is they overpaid on the 15th, and when they reconciled that with the entire months pay he is supposed to get the end of month ended up being less.
So lets say he makes $2000.00 a month but like you said, it is his first pay period. So DFAS paid him $1200.00 on mid month for his first pay. Then, they took the $1200.00 out of the total, minus the money they gave him on a debit card to purchase personal items at the PX/BX/NEX (whatever branch) so out of the $800.00 left, minus the debit ($100.00 I don't know what it is today but you get the idea) and ergo, there is your end of month pay.
So, $2000.00 for the entire month minus mid month pay minus any advance pay or debits and there you are left with the balance at the end of the month.
Now for the really bad news. You can call the Joint Chiefs of Staff if you want to and you can access his My Pay and look at his earnings statements but even if there was an error which there probably was not, no one is going to pay you more money even though you feel shorted and have bills to pay. Not the answer you want to hear and I'm not trying to be a smart a... but that is just the truth of the matter but now that he is in the system you will start to see the amounts for both pays, the 15th and the 1st be relatively the same within a buck or two at the most.
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Originally Answered: Better to go Active Duty Army or National Guard?
The Guard does not provide full-time employment, and does not provide all the same benefits. Also, you are subject to being called up for national service at any time, and/or being activated by the Governor for in-state emergencies. Both of those would kick in active-duty pay and benefits for the time you're activated.
That chance of getting activated can be a real problem - a lot of employers don't like to risk hiring someone who has to miss one weekend a month and who might have to leave for up to a year or more with little or no notice. There's a law that requires them to not discriminate on that basis - but that mostly just means they will put some other excuse in writing when they fire you or hire someone else. But if you have a supportive civilian employer, it provides good training, some extra benefits, and some extra cash.
Thanks to your son for his service, and your daughter for her desire to serve.
The first amount received into the account would have been higher than normal as it would have covered his pay & possible allowances from the date he started to the payday. Normally the pay on the 15th covers the 1st to the 15th; then the pay on the 1st covers the 16th to the End of Month (EOM). So say he started on the 20th of the month, the first pay on the 15th would have been from the 20th to the End of the Previous Month plus the pay for the 1st to the 15th. There would have also been a deduction from his first pay of up to $300 for necessities he needed to purchase when there.
Not always will deposits be the same so you are aware, it can depend other pays and/or allowances starting and stopping, etc... Most likely the pay he received into the account on the 1st is the pay he will likely get on the 15th.
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Without the leave and earnings statement there's no way to tell what the difference is. Since this is only the first month anything could happen. I would say plan on about $1000 per pay day while he's in training. Base pay is $1357 for the first 4 months and then $1467, then you have to subtract taxes and social security, then you'll get BAH on top of that which depends on where you live. Here's a chart to show you what the rates are. It's not taxed. It will be divided in half. Half on each pay day.
Word of warning. If you husband ever gets in a situation where he's been overpaid or owes money to the government for some reason, most of the time it's taken back all at once.
May this be the most of your frustrations you have while he's in the military.
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A certain amount of money is taken out of their pay for the incidentals that they have bought while they are there. Also, if he started before the 15th of the previous month, there is extra pay for that.
The DOD will NOT let you have access to his LES. That has to come from your hubby. They will protect his right to privacy and not allow you to touch anything financial. All permissions have to be granted by hubby. Even to just go to finance and speak to them, you must have a special power of attorney.
For right now... you are just going to have to go with the flow and try not to spend too much. Go on the amount in the deposit and then if it happens to go up... great.
This will not be the last time that his pay will have changes and that you will see fluctuations.
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The reason the first pay check was higher, was because DFAS back-paid him to the day he shipped out to in-process the military. The amount that he received from the second payment should be what he will get each pay period from now on, unless he gets additional pay, i.e. airborne hazard pay (jump pay), language proficiency etc. You must keep in mind that the Army ( i am currently active duty, and will stick with what I know), will not provide certain things. They will make him pay for his haircuts, his hygiene items, and certain clothing items while he is in Basic Training. So you will have to make sure that he has enough money to cover these expenses. You aren't going to be able to call him, as he is training and the Army wants him focused on that. When his Drill Sergeants let him, he will get a chance to call you from time to time, and you can try to let him know whats going on. He is in a high stress environment right now, and doesn't need the additional stress of worrying about back home. If you have a concern and you can wait until he is done with BCT, then hold off.
If you aren't able to make ends meet with just his pay check, don't be like the other spouses that sit around and complain without trying to fix things. Go get a job anddon'tt rely on just him. He works hard for hispiss poorr pay, just like the rest of us do. His pay will go up after 4 months, then every year until he is in the 4th year. After the 4th year, he will get a "pay raise" every 2 years, not counting what gets approved prior to the new calender year.
As for your final statement, you are naive. You are just starting out in the real world with a soldier that counts on you to support him. You are very naive indeed, and I would research and talk to whom I could if I were in the same position. You may want to get a general power of attorney, a special power of attorney and a DFAS special power of attorney from him so that you can get done what you need to get done. I have a bunch more info and you can contact me at [email protected]
if you have more questions or concerns.
101st Airborne Division
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That first deposit likely covered more than 15 days, as it takes time to set up the pay and on the first one they get back payed to the day they left for basic training.
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Originally Answered: Can I separate from Active Duty Air Force, finish my degree then get a commission without any repurcusssions?
The answer is Yes and No.
What decision you make will stick with you and if you make the wrong decision you won't like it.
Your "intent" will telegraph your loyalty to the Air Force and will define your future situations.
A. By all means, remain in the AF for the next 2 years and finish your enlistment. You must get an Honorable Discharge to be eligible for the Post 9/11 G.I. Bill for educational benefits.
B. If you take your discharge and enroll into a college that offers Air Force ROTC and are accepted to AF ROTC then you can take ROTC for 4 years, finish your degree for your B.S. or B.A. and even finish your Master's Degree (which is really a plus!). Then, assuming that you are NOT over the age of 27 years old, you could be commissioned as a Second Lieutenant in the USAF and return to active duty as an officer and serve another 4 years.
My son's friend did just that. And, now he is a Captain in the AF and just finished his Master's degree.
C. You could hope that your application (why you have not made it already) for AECP and/or ASCP could be approved and you would be under that program to finish college. Then, you would return to the AF with a commission after going through appropriate training for an officer's job field.
What makes you think that there would be "repercussions?" Who is telling you this? With 3 years already in the AF you are probably a Senior Airman and you know where the Base Education Office is. Also sit down with your First Sergeant and get his/her help. And, speak with your Commander about his/her recommendations.
If you get AECP or ASCP that "IS" a commitment to the AF. If you want to be commissioned than you MUST commit. Or else just take your discharge in a year and be a former enlisted man/woman (I can't tell what your sex it from your question or code name).
You can NOT play both ends against the middle and base your decisions on what future civilian job or civilian pay might be out there. Give that up.
Either you decide to go for a commission and complete your college education or become a civilian once again.
You may contact me back with more detailed information because your situation at this point requires a critical commitment.
What is your current AFSC? Do you like being in the AF and doing your job? Where are you stationed?
Senior Master Sergeant, USAF (Ret.)
P.S. There are over 1,000 schools that offer AF ROTC. And they are all open! With ROTC classes each year. When the AF closes down ROTC you can "assume" that people won't be commissioned at a standard rate. Don't listen to "conjecture" about the AF or other services not taking in new people. Only about 30% of the first termers reenlist and most officers don't extend past their ETS either. Even AF OTS is still in operation. Of course there are only 7 classes of OTS each fiscal year and the student body might only be about 125 - 200 or so each class. But, the classes are still in operation. The AF can not afford to close down recruitment. It would have to close down recruiting offices, basic training, and the huge technical school operation. This will never happen because the service has to advance and retrain all the time to keep up with technology.