The process of becoming an Ensign through Navy OCS.?
Topic: The process of becoming an Ensign through Navy OCS.?
June 16, 2019 / By Berry Question:
I'm a 24 year old male who graduated Magna *** Laude from a state school two years ago with a 3.75 GPA...in English Writing. Several of my friends are veterans (enlisted) and for a number of reasons, including the economy, I'm seriously considering Navy OCS, given my degree. Now, I'm aware that English isn't the most desirable degree, that competition to get into OCS has gotten a lot tougher since the economy went down the drain, and that there are numerous obstacles on the path to becoming an officer. Likewise, I haven't spoken to a recruiter yet. I'd really like some advice, particularly in regards to the contemporary recession/war environment. First, besides studying gouge and PTing myself every day (already covered), what can I do to stand out to a recruiter? Before attending OCS, how many interviews/essays/recommendations will be required? Assuming I spoke to a recruiter tomorrow, how much time would most likely pass before I could arrive at Newport/got a commission? Should I take the ASVAB? I should note that I have no previous military service. Anyway, thank you for reading this. I appreciate your time and look forward to your responses.
Best Answers: The process of becoming an Ensign through Navy OCS.?
Affricah | 9 days ago
Besides studying and working out, you should read up on the recruitment process and research the communities you're interested in. http://www.usnavyocs.com is a good site to get your questions answered and learn about all aspects of OCS from recruitment to commissioning and http://www.navy-officer.com has a sample timeline as well as general overview of the officer recruitment process. Having this base knowledge will demonstrate to your recruiter that you are taking the process seriously and have taken the initiative to teach yourself about it. Dress nicely when you meet with your recruiter, and always present yourself professionally in phone and email conversations with him or her. Be ready to explain your motivation for joining the Navy.
As part of the application, you'll have to fill out a very long application, write one personal statement and get at least three recommendations. I did one interview with a CAPT in the community I was interested it -- you can do as many as you want.
As far as timelines, I spoke to my recruiter for the first time on January 23 (she contacted me after I requested information through http://www.navy.com/officer). I took the ASTB (the Aviation Selection Test Battery -- used for all Naval Officer applicants, regardless of whether they want to be in Aviation) February 10, did my interview the next week, and had my package submitted February 17 in time for the March Selection Board. A PRT is not required for your initial application package, nor is a trip to MEPS (Medical Entrance Processing Station). I was notified that I was selected at the beginning of April and went to MEPS a week and a half later. Now I'm waiting on a medical waiver so I can do the PRT and get my final selection. According to my recruiter, the very earliest I could be in Rhode Island is October. That's my timeline though, and it can vary a lot depending on how busy your recruiter is, if you have any problems with your package, and how fast you can put your stuff together.
You don't have to take the ASVAB to put in an officer packet. You take the ASTB. The ASTB is a hard test and you probably won't be able to just walk in and ace it. The first three sections (math, reading, mechanical comprehension) make up your OAR, which is your overall qualifying score. Everyone takes this part. The other part of the test (spatial apperception, aviation and nautical information, and aviation supplemental) are only required for aviation candidates, but if you can take them and do well, it will be a definite plus for your application.
Good luck with everything, and feel free to send me a message if I can answer any specific questions for you :)
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Originally Answered: What type of jobs can I get when I leave the navy? My job in the Navy is Submarine Electronics Computer Field?
If you like Math and are good at logic and problem solving you need to look at a Computer Science degree and career in Programming.
Computer Programming looks like it will remain the premier IT job area. This makes a Computer Science (CS) Bachelor’s (4 year) Degree one of the premier IT degrees to have. Although the actual courses will vary from college to college, this major will usually have a primary focus on Programming and include advanced Math classes. People in this major usually are pursuing careers developing application software, web development, embedded code and robotics. Game programming is another possible area. Sometimes depending on the college the degree may cover some more general topics as listed under CIS below. Programming is not for everyone and requires a logical mindset. Many people believe that Programmers are born and not made and that taking tons of Programming classes will not make you a Programmer if you don’t have a natural gifting for it. I basically agree with that opinion. In CS and other IT majors it is very important to keep a high Grade average 3.0-3.5 GPA as employers are known to examine college grades closely when selecting new hires or internship candidates. Maintaining this higher grade average can be difficult in CS as there are many challenging courses. Students who see their GPA slipping or who struggle with the Math and Programming classes would be better advised to transfer out of CS if they see it difficult to maintain that grade average. With 50-100 applicants for each job position employers often will have many graduates with a 4.0 average GPA to choose from. If you graduate with a 2.4 or 2.8 GPA it will probably impact the types and size of companies where you can find employment. The aerospace company where I work has a 3.0-3.5 minimum GPA requirement. It used to be 3.5 and they recently lowered the bar to 3.0.
Many CS students find themselves not enjoying programming, not being gifted at it or not having the math and logic skills to be good at programming and they will switch out into CIS or other equivalent more general IT degree programs. CS majors that are able to graduate can also qualify for jobs listed below under CIS – jobs like Computer Security, Networking or Systems/Database Administration.
Over the years I have met many Computer Science majors and Programmers and have found that you can see some basic common characteristics. Below is a list of personal characteristics of successful software developers that were compiled by a group of three very gifted software development co-workers. If you look at this list and seem to see yourself, you will definitely want to give CS a try:
Thinks in terms of modules steps or sequencing
Math is important – but even more logic
A talent in building physical things like (As a kid maybe Legos)
You might have a messy desk but you can easily find things on it
Not highly sociable (small group of friends)
Not highly interactive in group discussions
Bulldog tenacity in completing what they begin
Loses all sense of time while completing tasks
Has intense focus on hobbies and/or games
Passionate about the work they produce
Another different IT related degree choice is Computer Information Systems (CIS) which involves less Math and Programming. This may also be called a variety of other names like Information Technology (IT), Information Systems (IS), Computer Applications (CA), Computer Networking Design, etc. This CIS is a general technical degree and is the degree that I have. Holders of these degrees work in a variety of technical jobs like these:
Computer Technician, Service Center Coordinator, Help Desk Staff, Storage Administrator, Network Administrator, Systems Administrator, Systems Engineer, Enterprise Administrator, Active Directory Administrator, Exchange and Messaging Administrator, Backup Administrator, Disaster Recovery Specialist, Database Administrator, Computing Security Specialist, Ethical Hacker, Corporate IT Acquisition Specialist and Data Center Administrator, just to name a few.
In a small business the list above might be one or two people doing all these jobs. In a large Enterprise environment this could be hundreds of people.
So without dwelling on the GPA discussion too much - In spite of the overall “on paper” superiority of a CS major, if you have a CS degree with a 2.4 GPA that you struggled through you might find it infinitely more difficult to find a job than if you were a CIS major with a 3.4 GPA.
First, you don't just see a recruiter. The Navy uses special Officer Recruiters. These are NOT the guys you see working in recruiting offices at places like the mall.
As a prospective Officer you do not take the ASVAB. That's for enlisted. You'll take the Officer Aptitude Rating (OAR) Exam.
You can get more info here.............
Something else you need to know.. going into the Navy as a enlisted sailor and then applying for OCS is a long shot, a very long shot.
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My responses follow your questions below.
"First, besides studying gouge and PTing myself every day (already covered), what can I do to stand out to a recruiter?" Be highly motivated, get along with people at the station, and a good leader. Recruiters will work to the bone for you if they see that this is something you really want to do and will do whatever it takes to do.
"Before attending OCS, how many interviews/essays/recommendations will be required?" For me it was 1-2 essays and 5 recommendations. Your situation may vary so that you should take up with an OSO.
"Assuming I spoke to a recruiter tomorrow, how much time would most likely pass before I could arrive at Newport/got a commission?" If the Navy is anything like the Marine Corps, it'd probably take at least 1-2 months to process and contract you, then you'd be going (and hopefully graduating) at the next available class. Something an OSO can really tell you because I doubt many people on here keep up with Navy OCS class schedules (unless there's an OSO here).
"Should I take the ASVAB?" Your OSO will tell you if you need to take it. I didn't because of my SAT scores.
"I should note that I have no previous military service. Anyway, thank you for reading this. I appreciate your time and look forward to your responses."
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what have you done since graduating? that will be a big factor in overcoming the non tech degree.
make sure you speak with an OFFICER recruiter.,.the Navy uses different ones for Enlisted folks and Officer candidates.
DH enlisted with his degree and applied for OCS once in.. between the time he was accepted and the time he shipped out to OCS was over a year. OCS is 13 weeks long plus whatever follow on training you get
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