Korean and Japanese alphabets? Can someone clear it up for me please?
Topic: Korean and Japanese alphabets? Can someone clear it up for me please?
June 16, 2019 / By Candice Question:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvcKYW5ustw - a video about Korean that I've just watched.It makes the language seem..easy.But of course it is NOT.Some say it's harder than Japanese.
So, my questions are:
1) For Korean..do you use only that alphabet with the vowels&consonants where you like combine them? I think it's called "hangul".Or do they have more alphabets like Japanese? If so, which one do you use if you want to learn Korean at a beginner/pre-intermediate level?
From Wikipedia: "Hangul, the Korean alphabet, is the native alphabet of the Korean language. It is a separate script from Hanja, the logographic Chinese characters which are also sometimes used to write Korean." So which one do you use? Lol I'm clueless.Because if you have to use only HANGUL(not @ an advanced level), it seems pretty easy.
2) And now..I know Japanese have more alphabets.I don't get it, which ones do you use? Or do you use all of them combined when you write? What if you wanna learn just at a pre-intermediate level? Because the grammar and pronunciation is pretty easy for me, unlike Korean.I'm from Eastern Europe, I speak a romance language with a few slavonic influences and I also know English, German and French.
3) Which one is easier and why?
I really want to know the basics of Korean/Japanese and I only have three years left until I graduate.I think an 'exotic' language like this would be useful, even at a lower level.If not, I still want to know the basics, because I love the Asian culture :)
So please, MAKE IT CLEAR for me.Thanks.
@卐 : "very weird question.
you Westerners are which ones do you use, ABCDEFG or abcdefg??"
Well, we only have one alphabet.ABCDEFG or abcdefg is the same thing, unlike hiragana, katakana and kanji.This is what I was looking for(when we use each) :
"Use kanji whenever you can.
Use hiragana if you don’t know the kanji or if there isn’t one.
Use katakana for words that come from countries other than Japan or China."
Best Answers: Korean and Japanese alphabets? Can someone clear it up for me please?
Amaryllis | 8 days ago
1) It looks like you did some research. For pretty much all practical purposes of communication, hangul is used by itself. Koreans learn the 'hanja' you mentioned, the chinese characters, but those are mostly used in more complicated writing, academic and historical texts and such, but never when chatting between ourselves really. As a foreigner, theres no particular reason you need to learn hanja other than personal interest. Not knowing will not compromise your understanding of the written language, so dont worry.
So then youre left with the phonetic alphabet of hangeul, which, in its entirety uses these shapes: ㅂㅈㄷㄱㅁㅅㄴㅇㄹㅋㅎㅌㅊㅍ ㅐㅔㅗㅓㅏㅣㅜㅡ. With that, its one of the easiest writing systems to learn in existence.
2) Japanese has 2 phonetic alphabets and makes extensive use of chinese characters, which are in this case called Kanji. The two phonetic alphabets are called hiragana and katakana. They are used to phonetically spell out native japanese words and foreign words respectively. Each has a little more than 40 characters, but the shapes are simple and easy to remember. Kanji, on the other hand, is a little more difficult to tackle. To have a good working knowledge of the language at a fairly advanced level, you should know about ~2000. All of them are combined when you write. If you are studying at a university, then you will, by the end of the first semester, probably memorize the entirety of the phonetic alphabets as well as around 50 kanji. Kanji is really required to read anything higher than something written for middle school or elementary school students.
As for your point about grammar and pronunciation. First of all, i am guessing you havent studied so much korean, as the grammar is pretty much exactly the same as japanese, just simpler and easier. Pronunciation, maybe ill agree with your point. I do think that the sounds in korean are slightly different from many european sounds, but not by very much. Its just that japanese sounds are more limited and very easy for speakers of western languages that korean seems difficult in comparison. The pronunciation really isnt that hard.
3) OK. Now the big question. The "which is easier" question. I'll go part by part to evaluate this.
Writing: Korean definitely is the winner here. If you really worked at it, you could learn the alphabet in a few days. Japanese writing requires a commitment of some years of study, but can certainly be done, and is a lot easier than most people assume.
Grammar: Korean is simpler. Without being familiar with the language its not real easy to explain exactly why, but you could say theres less rules maybe. Other than that, the grammer is the same as japanese. Incidentally, the korean and japanese languages are closer to eachother than they are to any other asian languages.
Speaking: This is probably the one place where japanese wins from a western european language perspective. The pronunciation of japanese is very clear cut, and there are only 5 distinct vowel sounds, which all have very close equivalents in say, english, spanish, or french, for example. Korean is not much more difficult though. Its true there are some vowel and consonant sounds that seem 'in between' the sounds found in english, every sound has at least a close equivalent, so with a little practice, the difficulty level of pronunciation is barely harder than japanese. I have met many whites who can speak korean with little to no foreign accent, very naturally, so it cant be that hard.
CONCLUSION: Korean is easier as a whole, and would take less time to learn to speak and write altogether, but japanese is not so much more difficult. in fact, my personal opinion is that the languages are so similar in many ways that the difference of difficulty between them is more trivial than anything else, and should not be the main basis of your decision. Study whichever you find more interesting.
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Originally Answered: I want to major in either Japanese or Korean.?
If you are planning on studying in Korea, then there is no reason for you to study
Japanese language. You will not benefit by speaking Japanese, if you will be
studying and presumably living in Korea. If you will be studying and perhaps
living in Korea, speaking Korean will be necessary for you, therefore,
learning Korean is necessary.
However, there is fallacy in your statement. You said that, you plan on studying
in Korea, because Japan is way too expensive. This is not true.
First of all, the universities in Korea are as much expensive as the Japanese
ones. If you can afford to study in a Korean university, you would also be able to
afford studying in a Japanese university. As far as daily expenses are concern,
yes, you are right, Korea is perhaps less expensive as Japan, but that really
depends on many things. It depends on, where will you be living, which city,
and how are you going to pay for your daily expenses etc.
Also, you seem to be forgetting the scholarship option. If you can't afford a 4
years in a university, you can always apply for a scholarship. I can't speak about
Korea, because i have experience only with a Japanese university. There are 2
kinds of scholarships. Full amount and half amount. There are many private and
government scholarship. If you win a full scholarship, the government will cover
all of your daily expenses and the tuition fee for your 4 year period of studying,
so basically, you will have nothing to worry about. If you get a half amount
scholarship, you will be able to pay for your tuition fees, but you would need
money for daily expenses. However, you can very easily get a part time job in
Japan, which is very good payed. If the scholarship covers your tuition fees,
with one part time job you will cover all of your daily expenses and plus make
some extra money for yourself.
Also, as i said, it really depends on where you study and live. Tokyo is the most
expensive city in the world. But, if you study and live in cities such as Kyoto, Fukuoka
and Sapporo, which has one of the world best universities as well, the daily expenses
would be cheaper than Seoul and certainly Tokyo.
My advice for you is to carefully make plans for your future, what you want to do,
what are you interested in working etc., and then choose the most appropriate
language for that.
On a personal note, you would have a lot more possibilities and opportunities in
If you are interested in the modern History of Korea and the economic growth, then
i suggest you watch some documentaries about it and learn more. There are many
documentaries about the rapid economic growth of South Korea after the WW2.
Basically, South Korea was able to develop so rapidly because of the help of the
government and the US, which supported very heavily the chaebol group companies.
Also, you could still learn both languages if you want. If you speak Japanese,
learning Korean would be very easy, because the grammar is almost the same.
Many words are also the same.
Anyway, hope that helps.
Are you Romanian?
in the first place, Japanese and Korean don't use alphabets.
Japanese uses syllabary and logogram.
Korean uses phonogram.
alphabet is combination of independent character of consonants and vowels.
Korean is one of the easiest language.
of course, hangul is made for learn to easy.
you need about 30min for master how write hangle.
and Japanese and Korean grammers are same. both are difficult for you.
by the way, Chinese grammer is more easy for you European, because Chinese grammer is same as English.
> And now..I know Japanese have more alphabets.I don't get it, which ones do you use?
very weird question.
you Westerners are which ones do you use, ABCDEFG or abcdefg??
> Because the grammar and pronunciation is pretty easy for me
East Asian language beginner learners are always say it.
in Japanese, you need to know what is Mora and vowel's length is very important, unlike other languages.
Korean has many vowel sounds, but I think those are not so difficult.
and Japanese has many kind of speech ways. (by gender, age, emotion)
you need to learn those speech ways
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