Does age matter to attend the naval academy if your an officer in the Navy?
Topic: Does age matter to attend the naval academy if your an officer in the Navy?
June 20, 2019 / By Caylin Question:
I know that you can only be 17 to 23 years old to get into the naval academy, but what if you already spent 4 years in college and went into the Navy afterwards? Could you still get in?
Best Answers: Does age matter to attend the naval academy if your an officer in the Navy?
Anne-Marie | 6 days ago
You can transfer into the Academy after a year of college if they take you. However, you have to repeat all of your coursework because none of it transfers for credit. Once you have a degree, you would not be accepted. If that would be the case, you would apply for OCS (officer candidate school). It is hard to get an OCS slot unless you have a technical degree. If you are still in high school and you have very very good grades and extra-curricular activites, you can apply for nrotc and the academy. I suggest that you apply for both because if you do not get an academy appointment, you may still qualify for nrotc. You may or may not get an nrotc scholarship either. You can still do nrotc without a scholarship.
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Originally Answered: What are my chances at getting into the Naval Academy/the Naval Academy summer seminar?
The average Gpa of those appointed is typically in the 3.7 range. Grade trends are also usually given strong consideration by most colleges that do holistic admissions and grades at the highest level in a particular subject are given the most weight. In other words a C in English 9 is hardly going to be considered with a B in English 10 and an A in AP English 11 a 4 or 5 on the AP English Exam and a 680 on the Sat Cr. For the subject of English, only the A will be considered along with the fact that a student was not discouraged by a subject that gave him trouble but persevered and learned how to conquer a challenge. The service academy academic composite considers class rank based on weighted Gpa and the competitive level of the school determined by the percentage of students continuing on to 4 year and 2 year colleges. Gpa's are not directly comparable between students at different schools with widely varying levels of grade inflation, overall competition and student achievement. A relatively low PAR(prior academic record) can be compensated for in the Academic Composite by a relatively high Sat or Act score. Having stated all the above, that guy who was appointed from the high school you were asking some guy about in another question I read last night had a Gpa over 4.5. See at around the 1:00 minute mark:
I question taking AP Physics as a Junior. That is a class usually taken as a Senior if at all. AP Chem is a more important class but both of these are designed to have the regular class in the subject as a prerequisite. Physics in the service academies pre engineering lower division curriculum is taken as a sophomore and has Calculus as a prerequisite. Chemistry is taken as a freshman and can be validated by AP Chemistry. The last few years, the Naval Academy Summer Seminar application which is also the preliminary application has asked for grades in HS Math, Physics, Chemistry and Physics. Be sure you are following the recommendations arranged hierarchically on page 19 of Chapter 2 of the Usna Catalog:
Math and English are of prime importance. Geometry will not really be used again till Math past 2nd year college Calculus but is important due to being tested on the Sat and Act. Algebra 1 and 2 are extremely important since they are also tested on the Sat and Act and without a strong foundation in Algebra it is difficult to do well in higher Math, Science or Engineering classes. Be sure to have a strong foundation in Algebra and if not attain it this summer. The Psat Math tests Alg 1 and Geometry. The Sat Math adds Alg 2 and should be taken the first time the Spring of taking Alg 2. The Act Math adds Trig. Take an Act that offers TIR. Only three a year do so. Start to seriously prep for the Psat and Sat this summer. An extracurricular reading program looking up unknown words and writing down the definition will help with the Sat Cr section.
As far as the extracurricular composite, quality counts a lot more than quantity. A three sport athlete does not need to join three additional clubs as a junior or a lot of community service or to go to an undeveloped country to teach hygiene and do volunteer work. He needs to show leadership in a sport and at least one other non athletic extracurricular activity. Teaching sailing at a yacht club is a demonstration of leadership. NHS membership is a demonstration of leadership. Earning a varsity letter is a demonstration of leadership. About 2/3 of each service academy class have been athletic team captains and another 2/3 have been NHS members. Do the community service required to join NHS.
The selection process is nearly identical at the the Naval Academy, Air Force Academy, and West Point, so, whatever is stated on one service academy website or in its catalog with regard to admissions generally holds for the others. If you read the following answer and open the links it should help to explain the selection process and the path to an appointment:
The Air Force Academy website offers outstanding advice to students prepping for a service academy, rotc scholarship or any highly selective university. Open all links to the left of the dialog box:
There are service academy prep programs:
BGO Area Coordinators or your HS Counselor should be able to place you in touch with your BGO :
BGO's conduct the graded BGO Interview, be careful to not to contact a BGO to ask questions that have easily located answers on the website or in the Catalog. It would be easier if you had e mail enabled. I am having to delete part of the answer to add to it due to the length limit.
Age matters; prior degrees, prior college and enlisted military service do not bar an applicant from being offered an appointment to the Naval Academy or any service academy. The 4 years of college strengthen the PAR(Prior Academic Record.) Even if a person has a Ph.D from MIT he could still be offered an appointment to the Naval Academy if he meets the age and other physical/medical requirements.
The age limit is not having reached the 23rd birthday by July 1 of the year entering the Academy for Usna, Usma, Usafa and Uscga. For Usmma the age limit is not having reached the 25th birthday by July 1 of the year entering the Academy. Usmma Mids can direct commission to the Navy, Marines, Air Force, Army, Coast Guard or Noaa Commissioned Officer Corps.
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If you use the word "your" instead of the contraction "you're" the chances are very slight. However, I knew a young officer in the Vietnam era Army. He went to OCS and flight school. He also attended Jump School immediately after OCS (the three week variety.) Served two tours in Vietnam (actually a tour and a half) was promoted to captain in 24 months (that was ordinary in 67 and 68) received the DFC, a chestful of Air Medals, the Bronze Star (with V-device) at least one Purple Heart (but maybe more) the Army Commendation Medal (with V-Device...and maybe a cluster) and several Vietnamese issued medals including both the individual and orgazation Gallantry Cross (I am not certain of the order...gold star or palm) as well as all the service medals. He was admitted to West Point with a Presidential Appointment (Not as impressive as it sounds...it just means that he was either in the service or a military brat and had no congressman.) He resigned his commission and became a cadet. He was over 22 and had been in the army over 4 years when he was appointed. So, it is theoretically possible. However, he did not have a college degree and made the decision that his career would stall at major or at best lieutenant-colonel if he didn't go to college. So, he bit the bullet. However, if you already have a degree it is pretty much a waste of time. He retired as a full colonel with 26 years. (The first four being before he entered West Point)
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you may NOT attend the USNA if you have a degree already.
the only way to get a commission at that point is via OCS.
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Originally Answered: What are my chances of being accepted into the Naval Academy or Air Force Academy?
The selection procedures for Usna, Usafa and Usma are nearly identical and based on a whole candidate score as is the selection of afrotc/nrotc scholarship recipients. Whole candidate score is weighted as detailed by the pie chart on the top of page 7 of the current Usafa catalog. The first chapter on "Admissions" is very helpful to read.
The academies don't look strictly at GPA. Weighted GPA and Class rank based on weighted GPA taking account of the competitive level of the school based on percentage of students going on to 4 year colleges comprise the PAR(prior academic record.) PAR + SAT/ACT scores make up the Academic composite which accounts for about 60% of the whole candidate score. A 3.5 for 9th grade and one semester of 10th grade seems to be on the low side but it is still in the competitve range. PAR also depends on the class rank. In terms of the Academic composite, a high SAT score can compensate for a lower PAR.
Varsity letters in cross country and track look good for athletic participation. Around 85% of cadets/mids earned at least one varsity athletic letter. About two thirds were named team captain. At least one non athletic extracurricular activity is recommended. Two thirds of cadets/mids have been NHS members. It is usually possible to apply at the beginning of each semester. Do the community service to be an NHS member. And again around 90% of cadets/mids have been involved in community service. My suggestion...
1) Apply for NHS or do at least enough community service to be accepted to NHS next semester.
2) Try and get grades up. Be sure to understand Algebra and Geometry backwards and forwards and upside down because the SAT Math tests Alg1, Alg2 and Geometry, and outstanding scores will be needed to compensate for a lower Gpa. Read good literature at least 20 minutes a day and look up unknown words in dictionary and write down meaning to build vocabulary. This will help SAT CR and Writing scores.
3) If not already, get involved in at least one non athletic extracurricular activity you enjoy and can show leadership in. Volunteer to serve on committees and other leadership roles.
4) Start to prep for the SAT using one of the widely available prep books like Princeton or Barrons and take it several times before June.
5) Practice the CFA to be able to knock off a maxed out score at summer seminar.
Great advice for prepping for any service academy, rotc schoarship or any highly selective university is offered on the air force academy website:
[Be sure to open all links to the left of the dialog box. CFA instructions at end of "physical prep" link.]
Besides the prep advice offered on gthe Usafa website, the actual accomplishments of candidates offered an appointment can be seen by perusing the Class of 2013 Profiles.
be sure to apply to the Summer seminars at Usafa, Usma and Usna in fall/winter of Junior year. Usafa opened Dec 1, Usma opened Dec 14, Usna opens Feb 1.
To apply requires a standardized test score. The form asks for SAT or ACT but PSAT is OK. Best to start to take the SAT Sophomore year. Math tested is only Alg1, Alg 2 and Geometry.
Aim for 700 + scores for an LOA(letter of assurance.) These are awarded in the 1st round of national competition.
Appointments on an LOA are not charged off to the MOC(Rep or senators) who nominated. Each MOC can have 5 nominated and charged off cadets/mids at each service academy at any point in time. For each vacancy that comes available he can nominate 10 candidates to compete for the appointment. He can name a Principal, rank alternates or offer an unranked slate of alternates, in which case the academy chooses the candidate with the highest whole candidate score who did not win an LOA.
NHS and athletic team captain are considered very strong forms of leadership and held by about 2/3 of class. Boy's state also highly valued. Questions about any of the above, let me know.