Topic: Terrorists thwarted in Seattle Military Base and Day Care Center Attack. Were they Presbyterian?
June 25, 2019 / By Clemency Question:
Terrorists fail in attack on Seattle Base and Day Care Center. Let me guess, were they Catholic, Jewish, Quaker or perhaps evern Presbyterian...?
I can't speculate, lest someone think me an islamophobe.
Sandie and Yaya,
I agree withy you that the KKK and other such groups are terrorists also, but when was the last time THEY took down three buildings with high-jacked jets? When was the last time they blew up an underground carriage? When was the last time they blew up a a commuter train? When was the last time they took over a tourist hotel and sexually mutilated the hostages before killing them? When was the last time they hijacked a school and sexually abused the children before killing them.
When was the last time ANY KKK, Aryan Nation, or Timothy McVeigh type nut job tried anything on such a scale.
We know who the enemy is, even if it is politically incorrect to say so.
Mohammedans are a threat not just in America, but world wide. To fight terror, we must recognise and fight them.
Bee | 1 day ago
What is your point?
None of the following terrorists who attacked the U.S. or planned to attack the U.S. are Muslim (to the best of my knowledge):
+ 1996 +
The Centennial Olympic Park bombing in Atlanta, GA, the first of four bombings committed by Eric Robert Rudolph. Two people died, and 111 were injured.
7 members of the Mountaineer Militia are arrested in plot to blow up the FBI fingerprint records center in WV.
+ 1997 +
Members of the Third Continental Congress militia group are arrested while planning attacks on U.S. military bases.
+ 1998 +
Robert Sanderson, an off-duty police officer who worked as an abortion clinic security guard in Birmingham, AL, was killed when his workplace was bombed by Eric Robert Rudolph.
Members of the North American Militia are arrested in plot to bomb Federal Buildings, a television station and an interstate highway intersection
+ 1999 +
The Columbine High School massacre in Columbine, CO: Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold murdered 13 people and injured 24.
Members of the San Joaquin Militia are arrested on charges of plotting to bomb critical infrastructure locations. The group's leaders plead guilty to charges of plotting to kill a Federal judge.
The leader of the Southeastern States Alliance militia group was arrested in plot to bomb energy faculties.
+ 2000 +
The former leader of the Texas Militia was arrested in a plot to attack the Federal Building in Houston
+ 2001 +
The Center for Urban Horticulture at the University of Washington was burned by members of the Earth Liberation Front.
Anthrax attacks by Bruce Edwards Ivins. 5 people died and 17 other infected.
JDL members Irv Rubin and Earl Krugel planned to blow up the King Fahd Mosque in Culver City, CA and the office of Lebanese-American Congressman Darrell Issa. This plan was foiled.
+ 2002 +
The Mailbox Pipe Bomber, Lucas John Helder rigged pipe bombs in private mailboxes to explode when the boxes were opened. 6 people were injured.
Beltway Sniper Attacks by John Allen Muhammad and Lee Boyd Malvo. 10 people killed and 3 injured.
Two members of Project 7 are arrested plotting to kill judges and law enforcement officials.
Two white supremacists were convicted of conspiring to bomb landmarks associated with Jews and Blacks.
An Idaho Mountain Militia Boys plot to kill a judge and a police officer and break a friend out of jail is uncovered.
+ 2003 +
William Krar, a white supremacist, is charged for the Tyler poison gas plot where a sodium cyanide bomb was seized with at least 100 other bombs, bomb components, machine guns, and 500,000 rounds of ammunition.
+ 2005 +
Kevin James, Hammad Samana, Gregory Patterson, and Levar Washington were indicted on charges that they planned attacks against Jewish institutions and American military locations.
+ 2006 +
The Animal Liberation Front targeted UCLA professor Lynn Fairbanks with a firebomb. The device was lit but failed to ignite and was powerful enough to have killed the occupants.
A man rammed his car into a women's clinic in Davenport, IA, that he thought was an abortion clinic
Demetrius Van Crocker a white supremacist was convicted for attempting to acquire Sarin nerve gas and C-4 explosives with which he planned to use to destroy government buildings.
+ 2007 +
The Virginia Tech massacre by Seung-Hui Cho: 32 people died and many wounded (not counting Cho who committed suicide)
A bomb was left in a women's clinic in Austin but failed to explode.
Five members of an anti-immigration militia were arrested for planning a machine gun attack on Mexicans.
+ 2008 +
6 masked animal-rights extremists forced their way into the home of a UC-Santa Cruz researcher and injured her husband.
Four multimillion-dollar homes in Woodinville, WA, were torched. The Earth Liberation Front is suspected.
Jim D. Adkisson opened fire in the Tennessee Valley Unitarian Universalist Church in Knoxville, TN, killing two and injuring seven.
UC Santa Cruz molecular biologist David Feldheim's home was firebombed and a car belonging to another researcher was also firebombed. Animal rights extremists are suspected.
+ 2009 +
The U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum shooting by James W. Von Brunn who was 88 years old. 1 person died.
Dr. George Tiller, an abortion doctor, was assassinated by Scott Roeder in his church in Wichita, KS
Crude bomb exploded in a Starbucks in Manhattan by Kyle Shaw.
+ 2010 +
The Austin IRS attack by Andrew Joseph Stack III flew his airplane into the IRS building in Austin, TX. One dead and many injured.
Jamie Lee wearing explosives and carrying a gun took hostages at the headquarters of the Discovery Channel in Silver Spring, MD.
With love in Christ.
Originally Answered: For the people who praise Bush for not letting terrorists attack us again. Why do you think.?
Bush has used the 9-11 attack as his foundation for invading Iraq. He had two reasons for illegally and unconstitutionally attacking Iraq: his family held a personal vendetta against Hussein and wanted to 'settle the score'; and Dick Cheney wants all that OIL swimming underneath Iraq's sands.
There's never been any evidence that another terrorist attack is planned. It's Bush's paranoia, fed by his handler's ulterior motives. Those nameless, faceless sub-humans who really control the country have ordered Bush to go to 'war' for OIL - and to maintain the high profitability of our giant military-industrial complex.
The wealthy elitists, special interest groups, lobbyists, and big business entities love war. It's profitable. Hence, after World War II demonstrated war's profit potential, politicians were bought and paid for, lobbyists were hired, and special interest groups were formed to promote and encourage war.
That put the U.S. into the Korean Conflict, the Cuban Missile Crisis, the Cold War, Vietnam, and Desert Storm. To maintain such obscene profitability, another 'war' was needed, and Iraq became the target.
Bush and his 'crack' Nazi-inspired Homeland Security Dept. has done nothing to keep us "safe". He has only stirred tension in the world, and shown the U.S.A. to be the biggest bully of them all. Bush's handlers knew about the 9-11 attack and chose to do nothing to prevent it.
It was not in their best interests to avoid an event that would surely stir emotions and help persuade people that it was okay to invade Iraq. We have no interest in bringing democracy to Iraq; our only interest is that land full of easily-accessible OIL.
Prediction: Bush's handlers will order him to invade Iran by the spring of 2007. Why? For the very same reason: OIL.
Prediction: There will be NO TROOP WITHDRAWALS from Iraq until the U.S. has sucked every drop of OIL out of that country's sand. Why else would the U.S. be building the world's largest embassy on a 104-acre site in downtown Baghdad overlooking the headquarters of the 'new' Iraqi government? We PLAN to be there for decades.
Prediction: If a Democratic landslide is inevitable in 2008, Bush handlers will execute another 'terrorist attack' on U.S. soil and kill a few thousand more people (but this time it won't be in New York, Washington, or L.A.; it will be in the heartland, somewhere like Chicago or Indianapolis or St. Louis). Bush will then be ordered to declare martial law, claiming that a change in administrations would not be in the interests of 'national security'. This gives the Republicans time to groom Jeb Bush for a Presidential run.
If you think I'm crazy, why not print this out and save it for a few years? Just to see how close I come to being right. -RKO-
Originally Answered: For the people who praise Bush for not letting terrorists attack us again. Why do you think.?
Are you insane? "It was just one little terrorist group that pulled off a sucessful attack..." They attacked us in Lebanon in 1983, the attacked our embassy, they attacked the USS Cole, the bombed the World Trade Center in 1993, the commandiered 4 planes on 9/11.
I too am a liberal Democrat but I am not a whack job. You need to open your eyes, if someone like you was to be put in the Whitehouse we would all end up dead.
Bush HAS KEPT US SAFE and thank god when Bush is gone, no matter who replaces him, he will have created a homelend security department that hopefully will keep us safe for years to come.
I always say, I want to see the changes our party is looking for in this country but I am smart enough to know that the Presidents FIRST PRIORITY must be to make sure we live long enough to see our dreams come true.
The real problem is that too many people in law enforcement do not correctly understand the causes and nature of terrorism. Terrorists may use political, social, and/or religous philosophies as their stated reasons or goals they hope to acheive, but that is merely window dressing--terrorists want only to hurt people and blow up things. At best, some terrorists choose that life to settle a personal score, even if that score was that their grandmother died in a raid 50 years ago. If you think terrorists have nothing for which to live, you are mistaken. Typically, they are *given* a reason--to further thier pet cause, regardless of the cost. Also, governments would be wise not to try to wage any sort of "war" on terrorism. Terrorism is one of those situations in which you cannot put the genie back in the bottle and has a long and varied history. You cannot fight terrorism; your only victories are that you might catch some perpetrators.
I agree with Yaya...you need to move on from your Muslim bashing...the KKK and Timothy McVey were Christians and the list goes on...a Terrorist is a Terrorist...it's as simple as that...
Originally Answered: Whats it like living on base and serving in the military as active duty?
Hello Peter G.
I wonder how old you are. You should not join the military because you expect to have the same freedom as a civilian to come and go as you please. No so in the military.
In the military you don't get a "day off" because you ask for it. If you want time off you have to use your military leave time and get permission to be away from your duty section. You earn 2.5 days of leave a month.
You are placed on a duty shift which might be regular days from Monday - Friday or you might work rotating shifts on days, weekends, evening (swings) and midnight (mids). You would work according to a duty schedule and them have a certain number of days off from duty. Examples are: working straight days and having Sat and Sunday off. Or, working rotating shifts with 6 days on and 3 days off. Or, working 9 days rotating and 3 - 4 days off. There are a variety of different standard work shifts depending on the size of the unit and its mission. Sometimes, during alerts and exercises (well almost all the times) you will work a 12 hour on and 12 hour off shift until the mission/exercise has terminated.
If your brother's birthday is so important you will have to schedule your leave time so you can go home for it. But, is his birthday anymore important than your own birthday? Are your family and friends going to spend money to come to your military base, get a motel room, and take you out to dinner on your birthday? While birthdays are important milestones they are no longer the "gosh - gee whizz" events like when you were a child. Getting papers? What does that mean? Newspapers? Sure they are available.
When you are not working you usually do what most people do. You sleep, you get gas for your car, you go to the movies, you go to a hobby shop, you go bowling at the base bowling alley, you go shopping in the BX/PX and commissary. You wash your car. You go into town and try to meet girls! You go to whatever events in the local community you like to attend. You go to the library. You go play golf on base. You go to the base swimming pool. You go to the base gym. You go get a haircut every 7 days, You go fishing. You go to the campgrounds. You play softball or basketball on the unit's team against other unit's teams (Intramural sports). You go attend college courses on base in the evenings 2x a week for 2 hours a time. You do your homework. You go to church. You watch some TV. You write letters home to girlfriends and parents. Is that enough activities for you?
You are definitely not trapped. Who told you that? You always know what your work hours are. There are printed schedules and you had better show up for work or be AWOL. You always know what you are doing because you are doing your military job. That's what you do.
Maybe you are watching too many old time military movies from WWII.
Senior Master Sergeant, USAF (Ret.)