What do you think were the reasons why Job suffered adversities?
Topic: What do you think were the reasons why Job suffered adversities?
June 16, 2019 / By Darcy Question:
Did the bad things happened to him because of something wrong he had done before?
There are some who teach that if a Christian is always faithful/obedient to the Lord, he will never suffer any adversity in his life. I think that thesis is based on Deuteronomy chapter 28 applied to our present time for christians
Best Answers: What do you think were the reasons why Job suffered adversities?
Brandie | 10 days ago
The last few chapters of The Book of Job teach us why.
Job was arrogant in his righteousness. That is: he thought that because of his righteousness that he *deserved* favor from God.
God made it clear to Job that the purest of human righteousness was no more than filth in the eyes of God. God used adversity to teach Job that lesson - that humans are sinful, that they therefore *deserve* nothing other than punishment from God, and that any favor a human receives from God is favor undeserved.
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Originally Answered: Is there really anything that is appropriate to say to someone after they've suffered the.?
You say the "I’m so sorry for your loss. I know this must be simply devestating for you. How are you holding up?"
Then let her talk. All you’ll have to do is make sympathetic noises, probably.
You can also use the "I didn’t know him well, but because my husband is such a fine person, I know he must have been a wonderful father and grandfather."
There’s nothing at all wrong with your example lines. DOn’t worry about originality (although I suggest that that "better place" line be sent to the depths of the ocean; in my experience, it does NOTHING for the grieving person, who wants them RIGHT HERE, not in any "better place" no matter how golden. I grew up in a family where I had 6 sets of great-uncles and aunts, all of whom lived close. We went to funeral services fairly regularly, every couple of years.
And here’s something conctrete you and your husband CAN do. Don’t just say "is there anything we can do to help--" DO SOMETHING. Call in a couple of weeks, or days, to ask how she’s holding up. Write to her--doesn’t have to be much, just a card or brief note about something cheerful will help. Send a small unexpected gift--doesn’t have to be anything big, just something to let her know you’re thinking about her. The phone calls, too, especially from your son. I send her books fairly frequently. Pictures of your lovely Max would be appreciated, I'm sure. A drawing he makes for her to pin on her refrigerator.
My father died several years ago, and while my Mom is still going strong (I fly out next week to help celebrate her 80th birthday--we’re surprising her--she doesn’t know my sister and I are coming!), I know how much having something unexpected come in the mail perks her up, especially in winter--which are harder than spring and summer for her.
You have to remember that Job is a work of literature. It is a set up to address the question, "Why is there suffering in the world?"
You ask if Job suffered because of something wrong he had done before. In the Book of Job it is made very, very clear that Job has done nothing to deserve what happens to him. He is, if anything, a pawn in a game or bet between God and his servant, the adversary. This person, it is important to point out, is not the devil; he is simply a literary device the writer uses in order for there to be a dialogue with God.
Read the opening carefully and it should be clear that God lets all the bad stuff happen to Job purely as a test. Job's friends try to be helpful and ask him what he has done, and he says he doesn't think so, and maybe his "friends" could do something else to be more helpful.
"Okay," I hear you say. "What's the reason for suffering, according to Job?" The answer of Job is essentially "God knows." It also lays on a dollop of "And just who do you think you are, asking that question anyway, Mister know-it-all?"
So, we continue to wrestle with that question. Thanks for nothing, Mister Job!
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Some of his previous 'companions' that came to him, questioned the same way, saying he must have done something against God and was being punished, but this was NOT true.
You must read the account of Job for yourself. Read or listen to it in an understandable Bible translation, if you'd like at JW.ORG.
But know this from the book of Job, what God knew about Job: Job 1:1 tells us he was 'an upright man of integrity; that he feared God and shunned what was bad."
He even set up days to offer up sacrifices for all his children, saying: "Maybe my sons have sinned and have cursed God in their heart." That is the way Job would always do says Job 1:5.
But just as God as note Job's faithfulness, so did God's enemy Satan as Job 1: 6-12...even coming before God with the other angels present and challenging God about Job's loyalty. Saying Job only served Jehovah God because of all the stuff God gave him as mention in Job 1:2,3.
God allowed Job to be tested. Job didn't know what was going on, but when he and his family are resurrected he will ! (John 5:28,29 & Acts 24:15)
Satan even broadened his challenge about those serving God at Job 2:4. He got Adam and Eve on his side, he figured he can get all of those serving the true God.
Those that remained faithful angels and hearing those challenging words about God's human servants got to see that Satan was a liar!
Many serve the true God out of love, as Job's faithful sterling example shows us, as well as others mentioned in Hebrews chapter 11, and the greatest example of Jesus!
Job chapter 42 ends amazingly, and verses 12-17 shows Job was restored living a satisfying life and a closer relationship with his God, even more children he came to have as well.
But take the time to read or listen to the Bible account for yourself at JW.ORG
you'll be glad you did!
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Every book in the OT is a "type and shadow" of Christ to come. Job's suffering showed that righteous people suffer because they are righteous, and this will happen to every believer. I've watched lukewarm Christians live happy, care free lives, while when I was doing my best to serve Jesus I was put through terrible suffering. When I would try to tell others about it, they would criticize me or look down on me. Every Christian will have a "Job" period in their life. It's part of the walk, but it will always produce beautiful fruit.
God knows what we can handle, and it's through our suffering that we develop love, compassion and character. God trusted Job, as He trusts anybody that He allows to suffer to make it through their suffering.
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The suffering Job went through was not due to God. Satan challenged Job's integrity by telling Jehovah God that man only worships God if they're doing well in life and have everything they want and need. So God allowed Satan to create an unstable environment for Job to test and see if that was really true. Job proved it wrong by staying faithful and relied on God to reward him for his faithfulness. He receive everything back he lost tenfold. I suggest you read the entire account.
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Job’s integrity to Jehovah was challenged by Satan. Then Jehovah, with confidence in that integrity and knowing His own ability to recover and reward Job, permitted Satan to test Job’s integrity to the limit, but he did not allow Satan to kill Job. Although Satan, through various means, took away first Job’s livestock and servants and then his children (Job 1:13-19), Job never charged God with folly or wrongdoing. Neither did he turn away from God, even when pressure was brought upon him by his own wife and by others. (Job 1:20-22; 2:9, 10) He spoke the truth about God. (Job 42:8) He accepted reproof for being too anxious to declare himself righteous and neglecting to vindicate God (Job 32:2), and he acknowledged his sins to God.—Job 42:1-6.
Jehovah loved Job. At the end of Job’s faithful course under test, God constituted him a priest for his three companions who had contended with him, and God restored Job to his former status. He again had a fine family (evidently by the same wife) and double the wealth he had previously possessed. All his relatives and former associates returned to pay respect to him and to bring him gifts. (Job 42:7-15) He lived to see his sons and his grandsons to four generations.—Job 42:16.
Through the prophet Ezekiel, God pointed to Job as an example of righteousness. (Eze 14:14, 20) His patient endurance of suffering is set before Christians as a pattern, and his happy outcome is pointed to as magnifying Jehovah’s affection and mercy. (Jas 5:11) The account of his trialsome experience gives great comfort and strength to Christians, and many Bible principles are highlighted and illuminated by the book bearing his name.
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If you read the book of Job, you'll learn that Satan challenged God and told him that the righteous man Job only served him for selfish reasons. God allowed Satan to cause suffering to Job to prove that man can serve him faithfully under trials. Job maintained his integrity, did not lose his faith, and received God's approval.
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“The God of the Old Testament is arguably the most unpleasant character in all fiction: jealous and proud of it; a petty, unjust, unforgiving control-freak; a vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser; a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevolent bully.”
― Richard Dawkins, The God Delusion
God's a major douche. Fortunately, he's 100% fictional, as was Job.
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For the same reason "Charlotte's Web" had a talking pig and a spider who could write in English..... because that's how the author wrote the story.
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Originally Answered: Has anyone suffered from depression or still does?
I'm on my slow way to recovery. I try to find artistic outlets, in my case creative writing. Also, seek help. I know everyone says only crazy people are trying to find help, but all you need is someone to talk to. I also take long baths. I just sit down and name ten reasons why I'm important. I don't leave the bathroom until I've figured out the list. Just try and relax for a few and keep trying.